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| Joe112 |
Posted - 12 dic 2024 : 23:02:17
Hello friends,
my target is to bring the MV Agusta CSL 125 back to road as original as passible.
This scooter came 1962 to Hungary, had some owner.
The last owner bought it more than 30 years ago, but he didn’t register it official.
The CSL has the frame no. 24223/9 and the engine no 24237
Is it possible to found out the year of production and the original color ?
I scratched at the black painted swingarm and found some blue points.
I´m missing some parts:
- Main Stand
- Plate Holder
- Gear indicator
- Manettino
From the gear indicator I have only the cover and this doesn’t have the two holes left and right for switches.
What is the function from this two switches ?
Any idea where I could get them, also as a replica ?
Mabey one of you have a picture from the gear indicator.
Last question, where do I get a Kit Catena Corona e Pignone
Grazie mille for your support
Ciao
Johannes
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Ciao amici,
il mio obiettivo è riportare la MV Agusta CSL 125 su strada il più originale possibile.
Questo scooter è arrivato in Ungheria nel 1962, ha avuto qualche proprietario.
L'ultimo proprietario l'ha acquistata più di 30 anni fa, ma non l'ha registrata ufficialmente.
La CSL ha il telaio n. 24223/9 e il motore n. 24237
È possibile scoprire l'anno di produzione e il colore originale?
Ho graffiato il forcellone verniciato di nero e ho trovato alcuni punti blu.
Mi mancano alcune parti
- Cavalletto centrale
- Portatarga
- Indicatore di marcia
- Manettino
Dall'indicatore di marcia ho solo la copertura e questa non ha i due fori a sinistra e a destra per gli interruttori.
Qual è la funzione di questi due interruttori?
Hai idea di dove potrei trovarli, anche come replica?
Forse uno di voi ha una foto dell'indicatore di marcia.
Ultima domanda, dove posso trovare un Kit Catena Corona e Pignone
Grazie mille per il vostro supporto
Ciao
Johannes
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| Iso |
Posted - 20 mar 2025 : 22:32:47
Hi
I didn't understand everything you wrote, in particular the words <<wheel drive>> seem to have nothing to do with the topic.
Did you mean rectifier?
In any case, the description of how the switch works is correct.
We have only the wiring diagram only of the last page of the manual.
https://www.scooterdepoca.com/public/schede/MVAgusta_362_UM.pdf
Ciao. |
| Joe112 |
Posted - 20 mar 2025 : 21:29:29
Hello Iso,
the work is going on. I removed 1,8kg old painting the rest will be done by sand blasting.
At the moment I don´t understand the eclectic system.
If the switch in the headlight housing is set to the left, power flows from the alternator to the headlight. If it is set to the right, the parking and tail lights are powered by the battery. If the switch is in the middle, nothing lights up, but the battery is being charged. This requires a wheel drive, which I don't have. This should also be in the headlight housing.
Since we always have to drive with the lights on and the battery needs to be constantly charged, I need to reorganize the wiring diagram.
Electricity isn't my strong suit; perhaps you have a wiring diagram?
Thanks for your assistance
Johannes
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| Iso |
Posted - 05 mar 2025 : 23:25:52
Hi
Thanks for news.
As for the color, in Italy it should only be with original paint, regardless of personal taste.
As for the wiring, they were black wires covered with colored fabric.
The sheaths were black fabric.
For esemple:
https://www.discount-autosport.com/it/produit/guaina-ignifuga-in-fibra-di-vetro-nera-600c-lunghezza-5m-diametro-da-6-a-25-mm-per-cablaggio-elettrico/
https://www.perlesandco.it/filo-di-cotone-cerato-mm.-1-5-viola-x-m.-5-p-90287.html
https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005001626659553.html
Ciao. |
| Joe112 |
Posted - 05 mar 2025 : 16:11:05
Hello,
I´m back again.
We opened the engine and a lot of parts was broken. Like the cylinder, gearbox,......
At the moment is the engine in Italy for overhauling.
I´m very happy that I was able to to get a new Cavaletto and found some parts at the Market in Novegro.
A friend of mine helped me to manufacture new screws and brass bushings
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I'm still struggling for the color because I´m not sure if the CSL looks great in "Azzurro Fiera"
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The was made by Photoshop
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Alternativ some blue metallic and also a photoshop picture
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The next is the remove the old painting, the preparation for the chrome parts and to get a wiring plan. Because all the old cables was cut off. So I can´t used the for the new wiring.
It would be great If anybody can assist in this topic
thanks for your feedback
Johannes |
| Iso |
Posted - 12 gen 2025 : 18:04:49
Hi Johannes
I prefer the original paint.
Ciao. |
| Joe112 |
Posted - 11 gen 2025 : 21:15:31
Hello,
we opened today the engine, more pictures will follow.
But there is a lot to do.
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In the meantime I got from Lechler color samples.
Which blue is the right one ?
Actually I would prefer AVORIO
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Ciao
Johannes
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| Iso |
Posted - 05 gen 2025 : 00:58:40
Hi, happy new year.
Good work on the CSL.
The rear and front hub, filter air are grey paint.
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The swing arm must is parallel.
Sorry i'm not photo of shock absorber disassembly.
The aluminum part is normal.
The crown must be zinc plated.
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Some parts must be black zinc plated
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Ciao.
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| Joe112 |
Posted - 04 gen 2025 : 23:42:10
Hello friends
First of all, a happy new year, I wish you luck and health
I haven't been lazy the last few days
A lot of parts are cleaned and ready for galvanizing or are ready like the rear wheel hub
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Still the first sprocket with original color :-)
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I guess the screw at the swing arm should be parallel ?
swing_arm.jpg
One question to the shock absorber ?
You have a picture in your threat at page 12 with the fresh galvanized housing.
https://www.scooterdepoca.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=50181&whichpage=12
Do you have any pictures of it disassembled?
my one looks a little bit strange, especially with the aluminum pice at the end.
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Grazie mille for your assistance, I keep you updated
Ciao
Johannes
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| Iso |
Posted - 17 dic 2024 : 22:10:01
Citazione:
Messaggio inserito da Joe112
Hello,
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Color:
as you can see, the frame was original blue, than red, followed by black
I will return it to the original color
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Good decision
Citazione:
Exhaust:
could it be that the exhaust was modified over the years ?
In that version, its impossible to change the GHIERA SCARICO
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It is very deformed, unfortunately I haven't photo.
Ciao. |
| Joe112 |
Posted - 16 dic 2024 : 23:02:03
Hello,
the CSL is striped and cleaned. :-)
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Color:
as you can see, the frame was original blue, than red, followed by black
I will return it to the original color
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Exhaust:
could it be that the exhaust was modified over the years ?
In that version, its impossible to change the GHIERA SCARICO
exhaust_2.JPG
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Ciao
Johannes
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| Iso |
Posted - 14 dic 2024 : 19:19:40
Hi Johannes
Your scooter is very beautyfull.
Paint is too perfect to be original and I have never seen orange on this model.
About "manettino", I think this are smilar to:
https://bebmeccanica.it/index.php/categorie/manubri-e-semimanubri-moto/leva-comando-aria-starter-anticipo-sinistro-moto-guzzi-galletto-fh126-50368-detail
https://www.bruzzesemoto.com/comandi_manubrio.html, in this page to have search "sinistro".
About Gear indicator: I think it was modified and the hole closed
Ciao. |
| Joe112 |
Posted - 14 dic 2024 : 00:23:03
Hello Iso,
thanks for the Info regarding year and color. The new painting should be as original as possible.
This is what I mean for "Manettino"
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And here are some more pictures
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grazie mille and best regards
Johannes |
| Iso |
Posted - 13 dic 2024 : 23:32:23
Hi Johannes
Your scooter is from 1951.
About Main Stand I shoe some images
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Portatarga.jpg
I think a good blacksmith can build it.
About Plate Holder
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About Gear indicator
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I think the switch is to turn on the back light of the gear numbers.
About manettino: I'm not understand which.
The paints are:
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Could you insert some photos of your MV scooter?
Thanks
Ciao. |
| Joe112 |
Posted - 13 dic 2024 : 23:16:36
Ciao Ugo,
Conosco le foto della CSL rossa e anche questa dell'indicatore di marcia.
Sto cercando una foto dell'interno dell'indicatore di marcia.
L'anno di costruzione 1954 mi confonde, poiché la CSL è stata costruita solo nel 1950 e 51
distinti saluti
Johannes
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| Belligerante ugo |
Posted - 13 dic 2024 : 13:44:40
Joe ho trovato queste foto vedi se ti possono essere di aiuto ciao
belligerante ugo
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| Belligerante ugo |
Posted - 13 dic 2024 : 09:12:37
Joe quando apri la scheda di scooter d'epoca sul menù clicca su "ancora scooter" come si apre la scheda trova MV Augusta clicca sul modello C-SL 1959/1951 e vedi che ti esce la scheda del tuo modello dove trovi scritto tutto quello che ti può servire,poi per l'anno il tuo modello è uscito il 1951 con numero telaio 22xxxx il tuo essendo 24xxxx dovrebbe essere del 1952/53 ti allego foto del manettino marce del tuo modello,poi ti volevo dire se vai su internet scrivi "scheda tecnica scooter 125CSL"e vedi che ti escono i varie discussioni e molte cose che ti possono servire a capire del tuo modello ciao
belligerante ugo
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